Chinese Type 86S Norinco Bullpup Prototype AK-47, Factory Bullpup, Predecessor of the Chinese QBZ

Here is my 86S with Type 63 bandoleer, and 20 round Type 63 magazines.

   The Norinco 86S Bullpup in 7.62x39 is my favotire AK varient. This gun is the AK style predecessor to the current Chinese QBZ Bullpups.

    Since the 86S takes standard AK magazines, and uses hard hitting 7.62x39 ammunition, I believe it is the superior CQB weapon of our time.

    The French FAMAS and the British LE85, both in .223, have become some of the most notorious modern day firearms for infantry divisions on the planet.

These are pictures of my 86S, when I purchased it a few years ago.

    The front end is threaded, and has the infamous "fish lips" flash hider, that is supposed to cut through barbed wire when depressed on the wire, and fired.

 These flash hiders are impossible to find without purchasing a Type 86S.

As you can see, the bullpup has a significant advantage over an under folder or full stock rifle, in that its receiver is directly on the shooter's shoulder, thus making the muzzle over 1 foot closer to the shooter, which makes entry into tight spaces that much more easy. This is the perfect weapon for an incursion force, or city / indoor combat.

  Above is my 86S next to a Blue Bolt 56S, in black Bakelite. They are a beautiful pair.

Left, is my 86S alone, along with its bayonet, and black plastic / phonellic / Type 63 magazines and bayonet.

I have added a leaser to modernize the weapon, and increase its potential indoors and at night.

Below, it is pictured with Type 63 magazines, exactly the same as the ones that it was imported with. I have 5 additional mags, as well as the two original mags, that are still BNIW.

Sweet Pair!

Here is the magazine ad (in Japanese, not Chinese) for the 86S.

My baby, with a 20 round Hungarian Tanker mag.

Brand new, with Type 63 Mags, NIW.

      The bayonet, and the pistol grip have the rare dark green tint, and are not black.
However, the front forward folding Styer Aug type pistol grip is black. It is difficult to tell from the photos.

     They were shipped from the factory (Factory 56) /56\ with two type 63 magazines, a sling, bayonet, manual and oil bottle. Thanks for looking.

My Clayco and my 86S 

Its a sweet set!!!!!

Chinese 7.62x39 AK-47 Ammunition Crates, and Boxes of AMMO

I wanted to document some of the original Chinese imported Ammunition.

These cases of ammo are beginning to be too expensive for everyday shooting.

They are all but collectors items or on doomsday suppliers checklists.

The Chinese PLA ammo is protected well, and cases of ammo are protected inside of Sardine tins for indefinite storage.


Here is a 1,100 round case, with two steel sardine cans inside, each containing 5550 rounds. On the right, is the open view of the 1,100 round case.










    Here is a 720 round Chinese PLA ammo spam can.  These are military rounds, and were shipped into the US before 1994.

720 is stamped onto the can on the right side.

Here is a good video that you can watch right here.

Un-crating a case of Chinese Ammo.

This is a 20 round box of China Sports Ammunition.

This is a "Yellow" box of NORINCO ammunition, containing 20 rounds.



















     Here is a "Green Box" of Chinese Ammo,
It says from the Jing An Factory. 20 Rounds.

The cartridges are copper, and the bullets are copper jacketed steel. 

These are solid military rounds, and have very few feeding issues.

Chinese Bakelite AK-47 Furniture, Spikers, Under Folders, Stocks, Mags and Bayonets

This post is designed to help show you what the Original Chinese Bakelite fore grips, stocks, pistol grips, folding stocks, bayonets, and magazines look like. Below are the traditional rifles that came with Bakelite furniture. These guns are getting very rare and much coveted by collectors.

Please comment below. I appreciate you questions and answers. I am just a collector,  not an expert.

Above, 1)  That is an FTC Woodland Hills 56S-1 Underfolder on the left
2) Chinese 56S-2 Bakelite Spiker from David Keng's personal collection
3) right, That is a Polytech Legend with a Type 56 Milled stock set

Below are my 3 Bakelite guns at the moment.

TOP: 386 Polytech Sidefolder  ( Type 1 Bayonet)

Middle: The Kengs gun mentioned and photographed above.  ( Spiker)

Bottom:  My IACO SAC CA. 56S-2   ( Type 2 Bayonet) 

                 Below:

1. Chinese 56S-2 Red Bakelite Side Folder without Bayonet lug. (It will accept a Type 1 Bayonet)

2. 56S-3 Red Bakelite Spiker Bayonet

3. 56S-3 Red Bakelite Full Stock

       All of these 3 guns are sporting a Chinese Factory 66 Norinco 30 Round Magazine.

1. 56S-1 Double Under Folder in red Bakelite. This gun has a blue bolt, so it is  a SILE NY import, and was most certainly modified by adding the Bakelite furniture to make it unique. 

2. 56S-2 Red Bakelite Side Folder,  this version accepts a Type II Bakelite bayonet.

3. 56S-3 Bakelite Full Stock

This is my latest Bakleite kit. That is my 56S-2 416 spiker,  noted below in the next picture.

and my FTC double underfolder below. 

1)   Blue Bolt Black Bakelite with black Phonelic magazine. There are some ( very few) SILE NY guns that were imported with Black/Green/Clayco furniture. Both underfolder, and fixed stock. They are very rare and uncommon to go up for sale.

2) Polyteck Bakliet Sidefolder Spiker. One of two total, that entered the US. This one was from Mr.             David Keng's personal collection. I just bought it from his FFL in Georgia!    I love it.

3) My FTC double under-folder. With two pieces of Bakelite.  I am looking for a spiker cut bakelite                 lower, or set of handguards.  

This gun is most likely a Frankenstien gun, since only two were imported, and one of them is mine. It is a modified Chinese AK, with a folding stock and a Skiper front end. Looks great I must say,  but likely modified.  Also with a Bakleite Magazine.

This is a close up of a 56S-2 Red Bakelite Folding stock AK. Look at the Pistol grip.

It is the 1919 style.

This is a Close up of a 56S-1 Underfolder with a Black 1919 Style pistol grip and a Black Chinese Phonelic / plastic / Bakelite 20 round bolt hold open magazine.  These mags are RARE.



Here are three of my Chinese Bayonets.
Left, a Black Bayonet,  Center, a Green Bayonet, and right, a Red with Brass Pin.
Below, pictured, is a Chrome Chinese Bayonet Hanger. Somewhat difficult to find these days.

Here is a good picture of a very Green Bakelite Bayonet above a Black.

This is a 56S-2, with a 1919 pistol grip, and no Bayonet lug.

Here is a Black Bakelite .223 84S-5 Bakelite side folder.

Below is a family of Chinese Bakelite Rifles.
from left, 1) 84S-3, 2) 84S-5, 3) 56S-2, and 4) 56S-3

These are the 4 types of Chinese Bakelite Bayonets. From Left, 1) Red with Brass Pin, 2) Red, 3) Green, and 4) Black.

Here is my 56S-2, which takes a Type I Legend Style Bayonet. The magazine pouch has a Type II Bayonet with a Chrome Bayonet Hanger.

Here is my 56S-1 Blue Bolt SILE NY Import with Black Bakelite furniture, and 4 Black Phonellic Magazines. Those mags are super RARE. Both 56S-1 and 56S, imported by SILE in Black Bakelite are in the uber rare category.

These are the Black Phonelic / Plastic / Bakelite 20 round Bolt Hold Open Magazines. They are scarce, but they do come up for auction on the net from time to time. That is how I got them.

Below is my 86S Factory Bullpup. It has a Dark Green Pistol grip and Bayonet, as received from the factory. It is pictured with 4 Black Phonellic 20 Round Bolt Hold Open Magazines.

The picture below is of a Bakelite hand guard. It is the Mikata Woven Fabric Type. It is also inset with a Spiker Bayonet cut. Look at the second picture. Look at the fabric, it is very porous.

Below is a PolyTech style Red Bakelite set. See the slim Bakelite grip and no bayonet cut in the lower fore grip. These are more plastic, than the older Chinese Military Vietnam era Mikata woven fabric types. Look, they are not porous at all.



Below, are three different red Bakelite grip sets. look at the slight difference in color.
I like the 1919 style pistol grip the most. (Pictured in the middle)

Above is a Red Bakelite full stock. Quite uncommon as a single specimen.

This is a set of Clayco Bakelite furniture. As you can see, these is a bit of a Green tint to it. Some say you cant see it until you go into the sun and look at it. It is visible in this pictures quite clearly.

Here is a picture of all 5 of the Chinese style pistol grips together. On the top left is a black, then a Green, then a Red.  Bottom is a black 1919 style, and last is the Red 1919 Type.

     I hope this post has been informative. I have tried to photographically detail each style of Bakelite Fore Grip and Pistol Grip, as well as Bayonets and Mags.

Link to Blue Bolt Post

These blue bolt/ black bakelite rifles are superb in person. Some came in with either, straight or curved grip.

The underfolder on the right, is a SILE, NY,
56S-1.






Straight grips are more common with the Clayco rifles, and fixed stock imports.

Here is a very rarely seen SILE blue bolt, in black furniture with a fixed stock. It has a straight grip.

It is pictured with a Chinese vented cheese grater,  but not installed.





Pictured with back pebble mag.

Sorry for the photo quality below, it was just too difficult to get a picture of all 6 rifles very well.

     Thanks for looking.